tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14386953.post113798531166605989..comments2023-05-01T05:20:32.574-07:00Comments on Observations and Opinions: Youth And Children MinistriesRayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01950476090876270020noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14386953.post-1138251271228063182006-01-25T20:54:00.000-08:002006-01-25T20:54:00.000-08:00Thanks for the feedback Bugs!I didn't actually liv...Thanks for the feedback Bugs!<BR/><BR/>I didn't actually live there, just went up VERY frequently <I>(almost weekly for about three years)</I>, Kanata is the town I stayed in mostly, but some time in Ottawa, and Vancouver as well as Toronto, and even a Yellow Knife excursion!<BR/><BR/>I have not forgotten the Feasts series we discussed, I still plan on doing it, just trying to get it all together...Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01950476090876270020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14386953.post-1138239130674155652006-01-25T17:32:00.000-08:002006-01-25T17:32:00.000-08:00Thanks Ray. I think you must have unknowingly don...Thanks Ray. I think you must have unknowingly done a mind meld with my wife and me when you lived in Canada, because you're saying what we are thinking and observing. (saw you mention Canada at Challies... wheareabouts did you live?)Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625691560372353977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14386953.post-1138067640289275632006-01-23T17:54:00.000-08:002006-01-23T17:54:00.000-08:00Charles -- Thanks for the recommendations... I wil...Charles -- Thanks for the recommendations... I will file them in my ever-increasing folder of 'Books That I Need to Read'...<BR/><BR/>:-)<BR/><BR/>Thanks for visiting...Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01950476090876270020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14386953.post-1138066970516450932006-01-23T17:42:00.000-08:002006-01-23T17:42:00.000-08:00great read. I you have not, pick up a copy of Dr. ...great read. I you have not, pick up a copy of Dr. Alvin Reid's book "Raising the Bar" as well as Dr. David Allen Black's book "The Myth of Adolescence" - both are good at re-thinking how to biblically do youth and and are very similar to what you have espoused.Charlie Wallacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205517569512180965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14386953.post-1138036154889645602006-01-23T09:09:00.000-08:002006-01-23T09:09:00.000-08:00Dan -- Thanks so much for stopping by! I thought y...Dan -- Thanks so much for stopping by! I thought your series was excellent BTW...<BR/><BR/>I agree -- we have lost the sense of 'community', and have become a business to the peril of our children and others.<BR/><BR/>And I REALLY disagree with the myriad divisions created within the church -- age, marital status, health etc. enable us to pick and choose whom we fellowship with, and many are never challenged by looking at a different viewpoint at all...<BR/><BR/>The church needs to regain its sense of community -- but, you covered that much better than I could in your series... :-)Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01950476090876270020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14386953.post-1138028734318826852006-01-23T07:05:00.000-08:002006-01-23T07:05:00.000-08:00Yeah -- I agree, that is the tough question:Do we ...Yeah -- I agree, that is the tough question:<BR/><BR/>Do we scrap it, and start over or what?<BR/><BR/>However, as I stated in the post -- I have seen good things out of this...Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01950476090876270020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14386953.post-1138028647027275742006-01-23T07:04:00.000-08:002006-01-23T07:04:00.000-08:00I think you have really hit the nail on the head w...I think you have really hit the nail on the head with youth ministry. I have seen this myself when I was a member of several youth groups.<BR/><BR/>Youth ministry seems so problematic that I almost wonder if it is worth salvaging.<BR/><BR/>Every Blessing in Christ<BR/><BR/>MatthewMatthew Celestinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520noreply@blogger.com